06-20-2021, 12:46 AM | #16 | |
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I think, my "Poke 2" is not 8 core device, but 1-2 core.
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Few years ago my friend bought fake phone from Aliexpress and he even reported fake display and processor data using various system information apps. Some applications tested reality and some just read out the pushed (fake) informations. Also Your post can make some light into it. I think there are two Poke 2 devices. Original and fake. Please, if Your device is not tottaly broken, please make some tests. In some apps I tested it I see all cores running on the same frequency: Simple System Monitor, Droid Info, Device Info, SystemGlow, CPU-Z ... It's not normal in processors without no same tasks. Simple System Monitor https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&gl=US in card "CPU FREQUENCIES" shows frequencies and graphs, but graphs i see correct for cores 1,2,4,7 and partially visible for cores 5, 8. Thats mean display of this "Poke 2" is not 1072 x 1440px? Whay services like https://whatismyresolution.com/ show 662 x 491 Please try it. Device Info https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&gl=US Droid Info (In store "Droid Hardware Info") https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&gl=US can see in card Features also GPS (NO!) and USB accessory (OTG?). Hardware Info https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hl=en_US&gl=US see unknown processor. In some apps i see refresh rate of display 88Hz. Does a eink display have any refresh rate? Webpages with default browsers flashed every around 2 secs. With EinkBro is ok. Interesting is in one app i saw test for count of simultaneously pressed fingers and count is 5! I tried CPU Throttling Test https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...throttlingtest and performance was 67 - 80,6 GIPS. PassMark PerformanceTest https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...mark.pt_mobile or from APKpure https://apkpure.com/passmark-perform...mark.pt_mobile Tests results: 21981 3482 5.0 mil. primes/s 6955 449 35.6 94.5 524 568 ... Summary System 3401 CPU 1613 Memory 6333 Disk 22642 2D graphics 9140 2D graphics 7522 Submitted as BL# 8011889 In device list i cant see my submission, but there is Poke 3 (or "Poke 3") https://www.androidbenchmark.net/pho...one=ONYX+Poke3 Maybe in few hours or days. |
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06-20-2021, 07:12 AM | #17 | |
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Whatismyresolution.com does not work correctly for mobile devices, it even says it on the page. 662x441 is extremely low and you'd tell off the bat. That's worse than an original Kindle. Nobody makes eink screens that size either. 88hz is probably the App not knowing what to do. AIDA64 is the best for reporting and correctly returns eInk screen. All of the cores in the Snapdragon 625 in the Poke 2 are the same and they all have the same base frequency so it's not that weird to see them all sit at the same frequency when there isn't much to do. And I ran passmark on my Nova 2 and got similar scores to you and they have similar hardware. |
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06-20-2021, 08:17 AM | #18 | |
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That's the "ugly text" issue mentioned here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=339999 A radical suggestion for those who don't want to deal with any of that: Code:
# pm disable com.onyx Yes, you do have to be rooted. |
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06-20-2021, 08:54 AM | #19 |
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Which I mentioned in the other thread too...
I wouldn't get rid of everything. Some of the optimizations like the animation filter make certain apps bareable to use. Doesn't seem worth saving 64MB. |
06-20-2021, 10:21 AM | #20 |
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Yes, but it wasn't clear to me you meant an accessible setting.
I haven't run into any animations. The default Android settings_global.xml already has these set to zero.
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06-20-2021, 10:45 AM | #21 |
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It will filter in-app animations that can't be turned off like the page turn animation in Marvel Unlimited. There's other useful tweaks like being able to set how often an app page refreshes that have no base android equivalent.
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___________________________________________ Passmark area Poke2 (or "poke2") https://www.androidbenchmark.net/pho...one=ONYX+Poke2 Just my "Poke2" https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V...d=801188931617 Total rank https://www.androidbenchmark.net/passmark_chart.html Poke3 Rank: 973, score 4008, Poke2 Rank: 1166, score 3401, Huawei Honor 6X with 4 cores 1,1GHz + 4 cores 1,4GHz Rank: 1275, score 3,161 (total score from 3 devices 2600-3400) CPU rank https://www.androidbenchmark.net/cpumark_chart.html Poke3 854, CPU Mark: 2116 https://www.androidbenchmark.net/pho...one=ONYX+Poke3 Poke2 (my) 1196, CPU Mark: 1613 https://www.androidbenchmark.net/pho...one=ONYX+Poke2 Huawei Honor 6X Rank: 1255, https://www.androidbenchmark.net/pho...ious+Models%29 CPU Mark: 1547 (total score from 3 devices 1300-1600) As i set, my phone is much faster as this device. I tried also Geekbench 5 and my phone in multitasking test have similar results as Snapdragon 430. My phone 0.32 Mnodes/s, Snapdragon 430 0.48 Mnodes/s. Snapdragon 625 can be in generating views from webpages (HTML 5 test) around 3 times faster. https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compar...snapdragon-430 ___________________________________________ Geekbench 5 area Geekbench 5 (117MB) have real multi tasking test, but file format is xapk and for install without Google play we need APKPure app. But why APKPure need manage phone calls? No problem with ereader. https://www.geekbench.com/download/ https://apkpure.com/geekbench-5/com....abs.geekbench5 ----------------- Poke2 Single core ? (crashed. i wrote to author of the test) Multi core ? Snapdragon 625 (results from next link) Single core 168 Multi core 1008 ----------------- Honor 6X Single core 105 Multi core 386 Snapdragon 430 (results from next link) Single core 173 Multi core 984 ----------------- And standart tasks Snapdragon 625 vs Snapdragon 430 from https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compar...snapdragon-430 Image compression 75.05 Mpixels/s 21.95 Mpixels/s HTML 5 1.4 Mnodes/s 0.48 Mnodes/s SQLite 366.8 Krows/s 136 Krows/s Snapdragon 625 is 3x faster than Snapdragon 430. In reality my phone is faster than Poke 2. And Snapdragon 625 can handle Bluetooth 5.0. Why this device have only 4.x? |
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Poke3:/ $ cat proc/cpuinfo Processor : AArch64 Processor rev 2 (aarch64) processor : 0 BogoMIPS : 38.40 Features : fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 CPU implementer : 0x51 CPU architecture: 8 CPU variant : 0xa CPU part : 0x801 CPU revision : 4 [same thing another 3 times] processor : 4 BogoMIPS : 38.40 Features : fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 CPU implementer : 0x51 CPU architecture: 8 CPU variant : 0xa CPU part : 0x800 CPU revision : 2 [same thing another 3 times] Hardware : Qualcomm Technologies, Inc SDM636 Last edited by Renate; 06-20-2021 at 08:41 PM. |
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Your Geekbench probably wants the Google Play frameworks or you need to make sure it doesn't fall asleep during the test. It runs fine on my Nova 2, I get 170 Single, 1000 multicore which is inline with what you posted and what's on notebookcheck.net. Are you confusing the slowness of the eInk screen vs. your LCD phone or something? I really doubt it's a fake Poke 2 or that Oynx bothered to fake it so the device looks like it has a 4 year old low to mid-range Snapdragon 625. It just doesn't make any sense. Why? Last edited by salamanderjuice; 06-20-2021 at 09:42 PM. |
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06-21-2021, 12:05 AM | #25 |
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CPU Throttling Test v 1.3.5 (link few posts up)
Default 20 threads test 1 core 1GHz eink reader (on this device i had a problem install v 1.3.5, so 1.3.1 is here) Performance 0.9 GIPS* (max 1.26, min 0.1 - 1 core device!) Single thread Java 214 Multi thread Java 58 Single thread C 1026 Multi thread C 236 Total 1534 points (1 core device is really flooded with 20 default threads. ) * What is GIPS i don't know, maybe Giga instructions pr sec. In the help of app is answer: Basic single instruction. In Google play comments is nothing. 1 core 1GHz eink reader 3 threads Performance 0.9 GIPS (max 1.2, min. 0.2) Single thread Java 211 Multi thread Java 59 Single thread C 1026 Multi thread C 266 No way.... Poke 2 Performance 77.6 GIPS (max 84.2,min. 70.2) Single thread Java 1638 (Java vs C tests) Multi thread Java 12634 Single thread C 2579 Multi thread C 18097 Total 9908 points (without GIPS) But sum is different from total points. Honor 6X Performance 44.3 GIPS (max 46.7, min. 37.5) Single thread Java 871 Multi thread Java 5941 Single thread C 1402 Multi thread C 9275 Total 17489 points ______________________________ 7 threads test I think there is one master thread so i reserved 1 core for this one if there are 8 cores. Poke 2 Performance 54.4 GIPS (max 59.8,min. 50.0) Single thread Java 1637 Multi thread Java 12588 Single thread C 2584 Multi thread C 17977 Total 9899 points (without GIPS) Honor 6X Performance 40.7 GIPS (max 42.2, min. 36.0) Single thread Java 868 Multi thread Java 5925 Single thread C 1421 Multi thread C 9247 Total 5235 points ______________________________ 3 threads test I reserved 1 core for this one if there are 4 running cores. Poke 2 Performance 37.0 GIPS (max 47.1,min. 35.1) Single thread Java 1637 Multi thread Java 12591 Single thread C 2585 Multi thread C 18108 Total 9913 points (without GIPS) Honor 6X Performance 24.9 GIPS (max 25.4, min. 23.6) Single thread Java 869 Multi thread Java 6047 Single thread C 1401 Multi thread C 9373 Total 5228 points ______________________________ 40 threads test Poke 2 Performance 94.2 GIPS (max 98.9,min. 87.8) Single thread Java 1644 Multi thread Java 12617 Single thread C 2588 Multi thread C 18018 Total 9923 points (without GIPS) Honor 6X Performance 46.5 GIPS (max 50.4, min. 38.9) Single thread Java 869 Multi thread Java 5973 Single thread C 1396 Multi thread C 9388 Total 5214 points Impossiiiiiiibbbllleeeee results for meee!!! But it's aI probably expected more from Poke 2! I think something is not good with android or communication with display or something else. there. I will wait until the author of Geekbench 5 fixes it. In Passmark test Poke 2 is only 4 and 8% faster than my phone but in this test 2 times faster. In "reality" i think my 1 core 1GHz reader is faster! |
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2.) Geekbench doesn't fall asleep. Hm... Nova 2 have also Android 9.... I'll try later. 3.) I think as I set in previous post, my old 1 core 1GHz reader with 512MB of RAM is faster that this 8 core 2GHz 2GB RAM. Original producer have no one piece of Poke 2 today https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000960082832.html Price was $189.99. Also nothing in https://eu.boox.com/ and https://www.boox.com/poke2/ Reader with small resolution, small storage, 1 core processor: eBook eReader Kobo Aura N514 e-ink 6 inch resolution 1024x758 WiFi 4GB 72 USDhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/32810232320.html Reader with small storage, 1 core processor: e-Book Reader Tolino Shine2 HD e-ink 6 inch Built in Light WiFi ebook Touch Screen 1024x1448 300ppi retina Carta2 (carta2?) screen Reader 77 USD https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001394064290.html Backlight: Yes 1.000 MHz Freescale i.MX6 If noname producer will do this one with Night Backlight for +10USD = 87 USD. Price of my was 140 EUR. Difference minimal 50 USD. You'll find out later that you have little storage. Reader with 1 core processor: 300ppi Kobo GloHD electronic book e-ink 6 inch eBook Ereader N437 HD screen 1448x1072 e-books Reader 4/16GB WIFI 87 USD https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886511943.html? Probably also Freescale IMX6 1 Ghz Photo: https://mobile.hdblog.it/2015/04/22/...e-kobo-glo-hd/ direct link https://hd2.tudocdn.net/427324 This one technology plus Night Backlight for +10USD = 97 USD. Difference 40USD. Is this answer for question why to do it? Quote:
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06-21-2021, 07:03 AM | #27 |
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The Qualcomm EDL (Emergency DownLoader) runs in internal ROM and gives the hardware ID.
On the Poke3, using my own code, I get 0x0cc01e = SDM636 |
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And why 0x0cc01e = SDM636? 0x0cc01e are 3 chars. Thanks also for new level of informations for me: https://www.getdroidtips.com/5-metho...ce-to-EDL-Mode |
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06-21-2021, 06:43 PM | #29 |
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Not really, you're going to fabricate a chip?
Here's one list of Qualcomm processor ids. Do you know a better one? https://github.com/bkerler/edl/blob/...comm_config.py I've also taken my Poke3 all apart so I've seen that the markings on the processor say "SDM636". I'm open to the possibility that everything is fake, but it seems to me that the evidence should be good. I find the performance of the Poke3 blows the Barnes & Noble Glows (with the NXP single core iMX6SL) out of the water. In the final analysis, what I require from the processor is that it be able to open a large EPUB fast enough that the Eink is the limiting factor. |
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No, every producer (not only Qualcomm)of chips use this feature? If so, OK.
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