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And, most especially, you really trust people to be scrupulously honest about having read a book, if that's a condition? In light of all the flagrant dishonesty that's caused this brouhaha? You think one of these fake reviewers who trashed the competition would have stopped at having to affirm a book's been read and thought, "Oh, no, I couldn't do that." There's no eyeroll emotie big enough. Goodreads is fine for my purposes although I wish it didn't market so aggressively and pointlessly. Granted, I don't have a horse in this race as I don't read genre fiction, especially current genre fiction. Still, it's easy enough to parse reviews and realize what's going on. False information is still information and tends to rebound in an unintended manner as it did here. Subtle enough not to be obvious is also subtle enough not to affect outcomes. Last edited by issybird; 12-13-2023 at 09:38 AM. |
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12-13-2023, 11:56 AM | #32 |
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Goodreads is broken & untrustworthy and the ARC system is broken & untrustworthy.
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12-13-2023, 12:40 PM | #33 |
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Mostly that story made me sad all the way around. Social media feels like poison.
And call me a softy, but I would still read the disgraced author's book if 'romantasy' was at all in my wheelhouse. I can understand that her behavior stemmed from the pressure of being a first time author and she owned it. I am tired of judging books by their author* And in the end, nine fake reviewers? That feels pretty minuscule. *And yet I won't read Orson Scott Card. So yes. I am a giant hypocrite. |
12-13-2023, 01:16 PM | #34 | |
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What I really object to are the reviews and ratings of books that don't yet exist and often will never exist. As in one trilogy where GoodReads has reviews and ratings of the 4th book. Oddly, the author stated on her webpage that there would not be a fourth book since the first two books did not sell that well and the third book was only published since it had already been mostly written and she felt the readers who purchased the first two books deserved to have the story finished. Since she shuffled off this mortal coil a few years back, the chances of that 4th book are even slimmer now. |
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If ARCs don't result in publicity or reviews, there's no point in them for author or publisher to release. I never had an issue with GR and ARC policy --- people bring that up to argue on ratings books not released yet -- Goodreads always responds people can use star ratings how they want, but while I see their point, we get messes like this easier. Not sure what the solution is as the system works for the greater good/enjoyment of the readers and sometimes authors half of the time. |
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If I missed where the author picked other authors because of their race, I'll happily stand corrected. |
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You might remember that before admitting what she had done, Corrain tried to claim she learned that a friend named Lilly had created those fake accounts and posted those reviews to help Corrain. And Corrain shared screencaps showing Lilly's confession. (Too bad the timestamps were way off...) When Corrain got upset with what "Lilly" did, Lilly turned into a villain. In the last of the screencaps, "Lilly" said: "I just remembered something important a lot of my bad reviews were for poc authors when the callout post eventually comes for you they'll call you a racist too you're welcome b*tch" |
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This mess that people make of ratings/reviews is just all wrong. How many books are still not accurate years after release? |
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Which proves nothing except that someone was willing to say s/he'd read the book.
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No matter how you try to micromanage the system at Goodreads, it's never going to work the way you want it to. It can't, even if GR had the motivation. So you can either live with its perceived flaws or go back to maintaining private lists of books and only reading reviews from the legitimate press and taking recommendations from trusted personal sources. And in fact, GR is very good at the latter. |
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It probably can't be fixed.
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